Surrender

[shamangineer]

This video should give some good insight into the role and seat of the subconscious aspect of the mind. While one half of your brain is not God, I believe it does play a critical role in one's connection to God through the unconscious.

One way to think about this is the following analogy: If ego is the man on the elephant and the elephant is the subconscious, the ground on which the elephant treads is the unconscious. God is all of them at once as well as the air they breathe, the sweat that drips from their pores, and the spark within them.

 

[sirujux]

the backwardworow of the dreoid.. mercury.

the way is thenot so way in the down perfect non perfect drowning thousands... lean to the fate truth thue in the droqning

 

[sirujux]

no one has answer the ya ya ay ya death daeath. never heard a man speak like this man before. 3787877348787738787377898439049

 

[fifthcolumn]

I am contending that the unconscious mind is the key and a connection to God, but is not necessarily God itself. I have outlined the connections and chain of custody of information between the conscious, subconscious, and unconscious minds in the mind episode and so don't really want to spend the time to re-hash it all here. I just want to make it clear why I contend that the subconscious as God is not durable in terms of self-knowledge. If that belief helps you to accomplish something, feel free to use that shorthand, but I am absolutely saying that there is more that that model does not acknowledge which is why in my opinion it is a form of heuristic thinking that can have certain benefits, but which is limited by what goes unacknowledged.

Some sources that would tend to be in alignment with this contention:
Ingo Swann - specifically outlining the role of the unconscious in his book Natural ESP.
Dr. Stuart Hamerhoff - his orch-or model delves below the thresholds of both conscious and subconscious thought and discusses quantum cellular interactions with the cells microtubules.
The Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Lab's model of consciousness is roughly analogous to my model and the others presented.

The fact that Ingo Swann, Stuart Hamerhoff, and PEAR use different models, does carry weight with me. However, it does not prove the "Subconscious Mind As God" model wrong.


I am absolutely saying that there is more that that model does not acknowledge

What does the "Subconscious Mind As God" model not acknowledge? (Besides an external, "above all" Source)

 

[fifthcolumn]

and chain of custody of information between the conscious, subconscious, and unconscious minds in the mind episode and so don't really want to spend the time to re-hash it all here.

Aaaaahhhh!!!

I get it! Boy, you don't hafta tell me 6 times!

Am I correct in assuming that you feel that the distinctions between subconscious and unconscious are useful? My problem is I never saw any use in that distinction. I agree that it is fascinating- and may be more accurate than just calling it all Subconscious. But as much as I've heard about models using sub / unconscious, I have not been able to tease out any usefulness. Not yet.

Can you point me to an aspect of ascension or magic in which employing this distinction yields fruit? Or makes things easier?

 

[shamangineer]

Aaaaahhhh!!!

I get it! Boy, you don't hafta tell me 6 times!

Am I correct in assuming that you feel that the distinctions between subconscious and unconscious are useful? My problem is I never saw any use in that distinction. I agree that it is fascinating- and may be more accurate than just calling it all Subconscious. But as much as I've heard about models using sub / unconscious, I have not been able to tease out any usefulness. Not yet.

Can you point me to an aspect of ascension or magic in which employing this distinction yields fruit? Or makes things easier?

I have been learning such things to understand the forces that cause such things to manifest, and the information transforms that occur across different biological and dimensional boundaries. Quantum or temporally resonant information is not the same as the relational transformations that occurs in parallel processes for instance. If you are using techniques that have been tested by a tradition having sucess with making a ripple at the nonlocal level is typically engrained within the symbology of that practice. If you are developing your own techniques understanding the forces involved in making that transition of information sucessful is more important.

 

[sirujux]

that reminds me im a grunt or whatever. grunt star seed in a animal human state to be exact heh

 

[fifthcolumn]

I have been learning such things to understand the forces that cause such things to manifest, and the information transforms that occur across different biological and dimensional boundaries. Quantum or temporally resonant information is not the same as the relational transformations that occurs in parallel processes for instance. If you are using techniques that have been tested by a tradition having sucess with making a ripple at the nonlocal level is typically engrained within the symbology of that practice. If you are developing your own techniques understanding the forces involved in making that transition of information sucessful is more important.

understand the forces that cause such things to manifest, and the information transforms that occur across different biological and dimensional boundaries.

Yeh, man, that shit sounds above my paygrade. You're talking about possibly understanding mechanisms of karma, with what you're talking about. Crazy. I ain't built for that shit. I can get to most places I want to go with knowing that those laws exist, I don't need to know how they function. Shit, man. Sounds like you might be the one monkeying with source code, buddy...

I think you're studying magic on a much higher level than I am. I use pop new age internet trash to get rid of weeds in my front yard. Maybe score some coin. Defend myself. Kinda low level stuff. All I ever needed.

developing your own techniques

I don't think this is what I'm doing. I think many magic practitioners use the methods I speak about. To what degree is the only question. When you employ these methods, and obtain results, the picture that is painted for you is one where mastering your own personal story is both the to key to ascension and the key to magic. That can't be my technique.

understanding the forces involved in making that transition of information sucessful is more important.

So far, the only understanding I have needed was in the transition of information to my subconscious. NLP kinda stuff. Where it goes from there? You tell me, man, I only work here.

 

[fifthcolumn]

that reminds me im a grunt or whatever. grunt star seed in a animal human state to be exact heh

A pack of human animal star seed grunts humping the boonies of battlefield Gaia.