Water Science: Water Alchemy Part II!

[enjoypolo]

I know it may sound egotistical, but I would really wish for another episode on Water Science.
I've been listening to the Water Alchemy episode with Shamangineer (2017 Aug) for countless times now, and there are so many paradigm-shifting nuggets in there, from Dr Gerald H. Pollack's work on Fourth Phase Water; Mark LeClair on Cavitation. Or anybody from PKS (Schauberger's institute in Austria).

Here's a list of potential guest I can think of:
- Moray B King: A living legend in the field of free-energy/ZPE, he talks a lot about water phenomena. He also released a book on Water which I will be getting my hands on soon (hopefully!).
- Walt Jenkins: Considered by Moray B King as the modern-day Stanley Meyer. He created H2 Global which creates water-based engines for anything from mopeds to cars, airplanes to ocean liners.
- Shamangineer: I really loved the water episode, and the breath of knowledge he has. Maybe there's enough there to go for Part II? Wishful thinking

Those are just my 2 cents, and there's probably many more qualified and relevant topics/guests but the list is a good start. There's also plenty of novelty/exotic scientist studying water-related physics that gather for the annual Water Conference (coming up soon actually!).

Anyhow, take it as you wish. Thank you for considering it!

EDIT: Here are some resources from Moray King (Notes & Presentations up to 2018):
http://emediapress.com/2017/08/12/moray-king-powerpoint-downloads-free/

 

[shamangineer]

I tried to cover as much as I could, but it is a deep well. We currently use fire/explosions/steam for most of our energy - which is inherently destructive (one could argue nuclear is not fire, but there too fission which is the destructive version both etherically and physically is utilized - not fusion which is the more natural version).

Ultimately as water can be a buffer or "battery" for chi / longuitudinal energy I believe it will have a large part to play in a ZPE energy economy even if the way that the ZPE is tapped is through another method. Water falls from the sky on a periodic basis and is critical to human life, so access isn't much of an issue assuming the use is non-destructive. I would love a Moray B. King episode, I think I may have floated that balloon before in this forum.

 

[enjoypolo]

Here's an example of mind-bogging observations/experiments that can lead to practical solutions: The Water Alchemy episode referred to Luc Montagnier's research on water memory, and how he was able to replicate, or entangle DNA across two separate containers of water via a field.

This eventually led to numerous experiments which you can find in the Water Conference Journal on Water Informational Copy, or IC, allowing for the transfer of data (information) from one substance (object) to another through a CD containing the data. It sounds crazy but it seems to work through a double-blind study on mice (video above).

In fact, anyone with a CD burner can experiment with this. All you need is a blank CD and a data file that contains the spectral information of the substance. Their catalog is quite significant, with each substance (drug) at $1 each. Unfortunately, my CD drive is down and I don't have a blank CD next to me to try it out. But I'll find time to try, most likely with the one that says Medical Cannabis

Seriously though, how incredible is this science? This is just scratching the surface.
Eventually, I don't see how why we would still need to burn CDs and instead use an app that could "stream" the data onto the water. Now that's a feature worth having, and it doesn't even require the latest and greatest phone hardware.

 

[shamangineer]

During testing Montagnier found that cellphones interfered with readings during testing. Due to the HF electronics utilized for streaming it would likely give bad results.

 

[enjoypolo]

During testing Montagnier found that cellphones interfered with readings during testing. Due to the HF electronics utilized for streaming it would likely give bad results.

Funny you mention that, because in the mice experiment above, the thing that caught my attention was a brief sentence about how the control mice had been exposed to ionizing radiation to induce immunodeficiency (to test if the IC water indeed had the intended coagulant effect).
I know there are (allegedly) discrepancies between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation, but I do believe those EMFs somehow mess with the mutations of genes.
There goes my app idea.. we'll stick to CD for now

 

[enjoypolo]

I just wanted to give my thanks to Greg for such an awesome recent episode with Aaron Murakami. I’d been following his work and colleagues at the conference for a couple years now, including Moray B King, and it was a delight. I remember being blown away by reading Quantum Key because my understanding of basic physics changed forever. Especially the myth of closed systems.

It may not explain everything, but it’s intuitively sound, and simple enough that anybody can sort of get it (reading it with visuals really helps, even if you two did a great job at breaking it down with analogies in the show).
The only other model I’m a sucker for is Nassim Haramein and his holofractal theory of the Universe (how crazy it’d be to have him on the show one day!).

I also loved how he explained the aether in fluid terms, and the mind/thought component that links our “quantum computer experience” to the aether. And his treatise on synchronicity is awesome too.
I was also surprised that he told solar would still be a better alternative to a giant bedini machine. And in my mind, a truly viable ZPE generator would be much more efficient. Which leads me to water-based cold fusion.

Anyways, hopefully you’ll have him on the show again, and talk plenty more stuff including the water aspect involved with tapping into the zero-point (and all the rabbit holes) or even connect with Moray B King or Jim Murray.

So thank you

Synchronicity Handbook:
http://emediapress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/synchronicity.pdf

 

[enjoypolo]

I wanted to share this incredible Master Thesis by Niels Werdenberg on Water and aquatic systems with Viktor Schauberger's lens. Very holistic view of water, and tons of analyses. A real gem.

https://mega.nz/#!6h4CjaDZ!o-q5O-VBQUvMwfxoKXBEAQDZHSkb8gBTAVXto2APuFQ

This website has some neat stuff too:
http://www.livingwaterflowforms.com/variousflowforms.htm

 

[enjoypolo]

Forgive me for recovering such an old (but timeless) thread.
I received a newsletter from EMediaPress (aaron murakami) who posted a link to a podcast hosted by Richard C Hoagland with a bunch of overunity engineers including:
Moray King, Paul Babcock, Jim Murray, David Alzofon, and even Walt Jenkins, whom I'm a big fan of (his work with H2 Global )

I haven't listened to it myself yet, but I can feel this is gonna be a good show.
http://emediapress.com/2019/04/24/recording-2019-04-06-richard-hoagland-radio-show/

 

[shamangineer]

If you think that's gonna be good, hold onto your shorts! Manna from heaven is over the horizon.

 

[enjoypolo]

If you think that's gonna be good, hold onto your shorts! Manna from heaven is over the horizon.

What do you mean? Manna = Ormus?

 

[shamangineer]

Haha, just keep your eyes peeled on the plus page and be ready to bear wetness.

 

[rani]

Some water work from my hood. Natural Sequence Farming - Peter Andrews and his leaky weirs.

and some great points about weeds

 

[shamangineer]

Weeds and trees have such an important role to play in the landscape with regard to water and soil biome activity. The most productive landscapes are heavily mixed with different species and fungi networks for distributing nutrients and water.

 

[rani]

Weeds and trees have such an important role to play in the landscape with regard to water and soil biome activity.

I completely agree. One of the most heartbreaking things to me is the awful structuring of EU farm grants. The EU gives grants to pretty much any significant land holders. The caveat is, the land must be cleared to count as 'farmed' land. So these fuckers, the 'gentry' just go ahead and clear their land to be eligible for shit loads of money. Sadly they particularly clear the hills and mountain tops of trees causing untold soil erosion and water loss as the rain just slews down hill rather than soaking in. It is devastating.

To end on a more hopeful note - there is push back from the people. https://www.treeproject.org.au/

 

[shamangineer]

 

[enjoypolo]

Epic stuff, thank you for these links and images Rani and ShamanG.
Haven't quite finished the Bosnian pyramids episode yet, but I think they mentioned water irrigation techniques that sounded quite like the Peter Andrews thing (which was new to me btw!).

Love the hydrological cycle images and that cartoon of Schauberger too, really shows how trees are major part of the process, and it's either spiralling up (overunity) or spiralling down(chaos).

That Repulsine machine that he created, I'm always reminded of it, and how similar it looks to some of the fan designs seen on some roofs from outside.

 

[shamangineer]

The scientific term is chirality, it deals rotational orientation about an axis.

 

[shamangineer]

 

[shamangineer]

An article on chirality and life:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/chiral-key-found-to-origin-of-life-20141126/

 

[smipapa]

Hey Shamangineer - I lost the name of that crazy root that twists upstream, what is that? I'd love to see if we could scan and recreate it with a 3D printer. Any leads on how to actually get my hands on the root? Thanks!!