Free Will or Cause & Effect?

[genxgemini]

Do you believe we have FREE WILL or do you think everything we experience is a result of
Cause & Effect?

My two cents:
I theorize that Free Will is nothing more than a figment of our vast imagination.

From the night your dad & mom decided to get it on, even your conception was a result of their Cause & Effect.

After giving it earnest thought,
I can not trace one damn moment in my existence to "Free Will", as absolutely nothing appears to escape the coating of Cause & Effect.
I challenge you all to name even ONE original,Free-Will action/instance in YOUR existence that isn't a result of Cause&Effect somehow.
What do you think?

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[genxgemini]

 

[sirujux]

ive always felt like everything is a accident. thats why i think its free will or cause in effect woops. its natural because felling like everything is ment to be isnt possible. you intertwine with everything i guess

 

[bgunnars]

Free will. But many chains to unlock, at least for the conscious mind.

As I see it, your parents' mindset was the portal only your mindset could use to enter the physical world. Your parents' copulation was not by chance, there is some subconscious mindgame going on. You can dive into it to figure out how to deal with that game or go with the flow.

 

[sirujux]

why do so many people die or leave your life? why cant you meet someone that knows you? why cant you live a day without evreything feeling fake?

 

[hugh johnson]

Conciousness is the fundamental building block of reality. All is mind and cause and effect is an illusion.

 

[sirujux]

deep. ive got to stop drunk posting. i dont remember tying that

 

[genxgemini]

Conciousness is the fundamental building block of reality. All is mind and cause and effect is an illusion.

Care to expound on your statement?

 

[nickzeptepi]

It depends on what you and I call - Will?

Is it the thoughts in the mind of someone who is yet to individuate the Self ? - Is it tuning into other peoples like a form of Empath - I guess peer pressure is a form of empath.

Can the will be free if the wholeness of the person is not self-assured?

Is it the inner affect response to external stimuli? - I will not put my hand in the fire

Is it the inflated ego determined to bring about a outcome that was implanted by propaganda - I will buy that new handbag?

Is it the inner Self incarnate and that's it - to be Self is the No. 1 will in life?

I must quench my thirst - Here is your choice of 15 sugar & chemical laced "drinks" - Can the free will choose from that selection?

Do schizoids have more than 1 free will?

Answer this binary poll using you own free will? lol

 

[genxgemini]

 

[genxgemini]

It depends on what you and I call - Will?

Is it the thoughts in the mind of someone who is yet to individuate the Self ? - Is it tuning into other peoples like a form of Empath - I guess peer pressure is a form of empath.

Can the will be free if the wholeness of the person is not self-assured?

Is it the inner affect response to external stimuli? - I will not put my hand in the fire

Is it the inflated ego determined to bring about a outcome that was implanted by propaganda - I will buy that new handbag?

Is it the inner Self incarnate and that's it - to be Self is the No. 1 will in life?

I must quench my thirst - Here is your choice of 15 sugar & chemical laced "drinks" - Can the free will choose from that selection?

Do schizoids have more than 1 free will?

Answer this binary poll using you own free will? lol

LOL- I can't. The cause & effect has already been put in play.
"Schizoids". Nice inclusive selection of terms there,Nick.

 

[sirujux]

sorry for bumping but just thinking about balance and + & -. nature balances things out so everything isnt nuts. good and bad are both risky. the universe works on geometry and bad usually works against it. i have no clue where im going with this. it goes somewhere or els everything is unbalanced. you need + & -. oh so good risks getting hurt just like bad. but good gets hurt more in this world so maybe the universe is getting more powerfull

 

[genxgemini]

sorry for bumping but just thinking about balance and + & -. nature balances things out so everything isnt nuts. good and bad are both risky. the universe works on geometry and bad usually works against it. i have no clue where im going with this. it goes somewhere or els everything is unbalanced. you need + & -. oh so good risks getting hurt just like bad. but good gets hurt more in this world so maybe the universe is getting more powerfull

Free-flowing thoughts are my favorite kind!!!
Fortunately, I have my swimsuit on. So,
I'll jump in your flow with you,if you don't mind the company. Thanks,thanks,thanks.

~~~~~If,in fact, that is true. Some good always comes getting hurt. It is the catharsis that contains the crown. Therefore, the hurt is vital & necessary in order to evolve.
The taking away of that catharsis is one of the main problems we,as humans, face today. The banalization of anything and everything sacred/meaningful & the glorification of all things simple,backwards and perverse are a revealing sign that
The ever-more-obvious&desperate attempts of the current power structure to retain control lately make complete & total sense....
Perhaps
the massive projection of a dystopian future in all medias isn't because it's inevitable.
In fact,
THE OPPOSITE is truly true.
THAT UTOPIA actually awaits us on the other side-where they have no control, where LIVING PEOPLE are FREE & ,like the rise in good you mentioned, there is absolutely nothing they
Can do about it. It is THEIR END & OUR true BEGINNING~~~~

 

[genxgemini]

Free-flowing thoughts are my favorite kind!!!
Fortunately, I have my swimsuit on. So,
I'll jump in your flow with you,if you don't mind the company.

~~~~~If,in fact, that is true. Some good always comes getting hurt. It is the catharsis that contains the crown. Therefore, the hurt is vital & necessary in order to evolve.
The taking away of that catharsis is one of the main problems we face today. The banality of anything and everything sacred & the glorification of all things simple, backwards and perverse are a revealing sign that
The ever-more-obvious&desperate attempts of the current power structure to retain control lately make complete sense.
Perhaps the massive projection of a dystopian future isn't because it's inevitable. In fact, THE OPPOSITE is truly true. THAT UTOPIA actually awaits us on the other side-where they have no control & ,like the rise in good you mentioned, there is absolutely nothing they
Can do about it. It is THEIR END & OUR true BEGINNING~~~~

Mmm, nothin like a good swim~ Care to join? Hop in.

 

[sirujux]

flowing thoughts. but bad news it travels fast. if its about yo you will probably hear about it last. i fell on the way here

 

[genxgemini]

Pink monkeys eat savory dishes from bone china on Sunday.The schnozz berries taste like schnozz berries and I can smell the Coors Lite from here but don't worry I'm not judging.I hope you are okay. I hope you were wearing your safety googles,you wouldn't want to get gravity in your eye I do declare this is all nonsense. Sense or dollars,most people usually have one more than the other. I don't understand your message because I don't speak beer but I hope you are having fun at the Water Park.Cheers!

 

[sirujux]

i was swimming in the river and i was riding a scooter and fell. kinda fun except my arm hurts and i drank a 12 pack. the bad news travels fast is from a rapper lyrics born. i guess bad news travels fast is the beer going down and the falling to the pavement. i need to stop drinking.

 

[genxgemini]

i was swimming in the river and i was riding a scooter and fell. kinda fun except my arm hurts and i drank a 12 pack. the bad news travels fast is from a rapper lyrics born. i guess bad news travels fast is the beer going down and the falling to the pavement. i need to stop drinking.

Glad you are okay =)

 

[sirujux]

thanks. i had to tell a mainstream forum not to be in the system yesterday. if thats all i get is a hurt arm and a hangover then cool. im moving back to my dads where theres not really internet. in the front room there is, but thats basically my dads room. life gets better without it, but its lonely. its in the national forest. better then here. i cant stand having people always annoying me. you cant go a day, in the mountains theres non of that.

 

[genxgemini]

Nature has the best wifi anyway. You'll surely be able to connect much better
in a National Forest.
Ya know, I'm not far from one myself &
those Ponderosa Pines provide incredible bandwidth. Not much of a drinker but if
you ever need a buddy to bong rip & talk about your problems.I'm your guy. You'd be
amazed at what having someone on your side will do for the quest of alcohol withdrawal. Even if it's just here in the forum.Best wishes!