Indiana Carlwood & The Underground Citadel In The Grand Canyon

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i know, i know, I Know -
I've been topping the hell out of the THC Forums lately and that tends to piss certain kinds of people off.....Pssshh, whatever =P
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I just finished rewatching some of the Armenian video & thought how cool it would be to have another fantastic THC-exclusive video to add to the THC Explorer library..something super special & unique like that Tour:

Picture it, Arizona - 2018 - Summertime in the G.C....


Live,Exclusive THC- ADVENTURE Video (possibly streamed) exploring the UNDERGROUND CITADEL Story from 1909ish in The Grand Canyon .
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1.) The Premise - LIVE exploration and/or documentation of the famous Grand Canyon Expedition of G.E. Kincaid & The UNDERGROUND CITADEL he discovered while rafting down the Colorado River for the Smithsonian. This story has EVERYTHING! See Also: Jack Andrews
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_orionzone_9.htm
2.) Who: You & Your THC Entourage
3.) What: A Whitewater Raft Trip Down The Colorado River
(Summer is coming up,ya know;)
4.) Where: GRAND CANYON,ARIZONA
Retracing the route Mr. Kincaid took on his initial voyage.
5.) When: SUMMER 2018
6.) Why: Duuude, do you reeeally have to ask?!?! Indiana Jones anyone? ;)

I can hear the movie-theater-announcer-guydoing the intro now:

" One Indie Podcast Host......One Insatiable Mystery.....FINALLY EXPOSED!!! *dun dun dun"
cOW7gn

( the mystery,not the Podcast Host)

P.S.
The thought suddenly dawns on me The Higherside Chats wears some "Big Boy" pants now & it could hire paid consultants out the ying-yang if it wanted to get creative input & it certainly doesn't need any input from some no-name that isn't even in that industry.Nobody asked me..I call this current feeling the used rubber band. Mannequins in the store windows,bro.
 

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Hmm, I'm very interested. My slave masters give me 2 weeks out of the year for my free time. I think it's kinda a bitch to get on the Colorado River if you went the permit way(legally). I think they really try to control that river for a reason. I kayak a bunch of local rivers and waterways, but for some reason, I think the Colorado is controlled. It may be a littering and pollution thing, but not sure. I could be way wrong.

It would be interesting, but I have also heard on this show the park has renamed a bunch of the trails and landmarks to throw off those explorers. Let us know what you find out, I'll be watching this thread
 
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Hmm, I'm very interested. My slave masters give me 2 weeks out of the year for my free time. I think it's kinda a bitch to get on the Colorado River if you went the permit way(legally). I think they really try to control that river for a reason. I kayak a bunch of local rivers and waterways, but for some reason, I think the Colorado is controlled. It may be a littering and pollution thing, but not sure. I could be way wrong.

It would be interesting, but I have also heard on this show the park has renamed a bunch of the trails and landmarks to throw off those explorers. Let us know what you find out, I'll be watching this thread

Hey Naphtha!,
Thanks for feeling this thread. Yes, you are definitely correct with your above points. The Colorado is heavily monitored but not impossible. Especially,if you have a little lollie to flash the Rangers. Those folks are usually quite receptive to Mr. Franklin. :)

The Canyon is full of places to enter without necessarily having permission (screw the insanely high park entry fee..it used to be just $10) ,but we'd probably want to keep things above board.
Mr. JACK ANDREWS from Tucson has been the authority on this topic for well over a decade. He is a very informative man. A man that was not afraid to engage me directly on this topic years ago.

I met with him at length back in 2004,after hearing this story initially on the Jeff Rense show. This man's research into the subject is unparalleled. I'm afraid he is getting a bit older,otherwise, I would ask him to join us. Maybe he'd like to come head up base camp,while we do our thing inside the Canyon. I'll ask. I haven't spoken with him in awhile & not sure the state of his current health.

He has TONS of old maps with original naming, some were even original surveyor maps.
And if THC doesn't want to bite on this suggestion,there is absolutely no reason, we the Proletariat, couldn't get together to make it happen our damn selves.
An adventure like this would require proficient planning,though. I love the G.C.,but I certainly wouldn't want to expire in it,ya know.

Also, I am happy to offer up a free base camp & tons of extras for us to really make this happen. =D And hell, even if it were just one or two or three of us that got together,there is NO DOUBT in my mind, WE WOULD HAVE A BLAST! Come to think of it, that might even be preferable,logistically speaking.

Whether it is done up all documentary style or in group adventure mode, what better reason could we all have to get together, IN THE REAL WORLD, for some serious,Summertime fun with this earnest, curiosity -led investigation. Cheers!
 
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Hey Naphtha!,
Thanks for feeling this thread. Yes, you are definitely correct with your above points. The Colorado is heavily monitored but not impossible. Especially,if you have a little lollie to flash the Rangers. Those folks are usually quite receptive to Mr. Franklin. :)

The Canyon is full of places to enter without necessarily having permission (screw the insanely high park entry fee..it used to be just $10) ,but we'd probably want to keep things above board.
Mr. JACK ANDREWS from Tucson has been the authority on this topic for well over a decade. He is a very informative man. A man that was not afraid to engage me directly on this topic years ago.

I met with him at length back in 2004,after hearing this story initially on the Jeff Rense show. This man's research into the subject is unparalleled. I'm afraid he is getting a bit older,otherwise, I would ask him to join us. Maybe he'd like to come head up base camp,while we do our thing inside the Canyon. I'll ask. I haven't spoken with him in awhile & not sure the state of his current health.

He has TONS of old maps with original naming, some were even original surveyor maps.
And if THC doesn't want to bite on this suggestion,there is absolutely no reason, we the Proletariat, couldn't get together to make it happen our damn selves.
An adventure like this would require proficient planning,though. I love the G.C.,but I certainly wouldn't want to expire in it,ya know.

Also, I am happy to offer up a free base camp & tons of extras for us to really make this happen. =D And hell, even if it were just one or two or three of us that got together,there is NO DOUBT in my mind, WE WOULD HAVE A BLAST!

Whether it is done up all documentary style or in group adventure mode, what better reason could we all have to get together, IN THE REAL WORLD, for some serious,Summertime fun with this earnest, curiosity -led investigation. Cheers!

P.S. This particular story was a thing for me back in the day. It tickled my childhood sense of REAL adventure & mystery & wonderment so intensely - SO naturally what happened- I completely obsessed over it for many moons.
Fortunately for us now, ALLLLLLLLL the massive amounts of information I gathered then are currently available in dusty old Uhaul boxes in a downtown Phoenix Storage facility somewhere. Including copies of many of Jack's map library. You SEE - there for a minute, we were going to team up to do our OWN documentary in 2004.
Me with the passionate interest & $MooLaH$ -
HE with YEARS & YEARS of expertise on the subject matter.

EXCEPT,
during our initial planning stage, Jack suffered a bout of ill health that took him out of the game for a little while...and, as life always does, time also marched on & the project got buried. I've seen a few other expedition teams take a crack at this. It certainly isn't for the faint of heart.
BUT SERIOUSLY, YO,
what could be more irresistible than the chance to play a REAL-LIFE INDIANA THC+ Member while experiencing a KILLER SUMMER VACATION at the same time. Are you ready to give the Griswolds a run for there money? Past ready to don an Indiana Jones hat & a whip? Realizing that you can actually do shit like this for REAL & it not be some cheese-dick, poorly Xerox-ed copy of something even remotely Adventurous IRL? GOOD!
I'd say we have a winner on our hands,Folks. What'cha think? =D
 
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Yeah absolutely. I didn't realize you had a few of the kinks worked out. If Jack Andrews would get involved and point us in the right direction, providing a good starting point, I have no issue trying to make it on foot or water. I have not been to the GC but have been planning to anyways. Harry Hubbard blew my mind on the possibilities, Alexander the great in Illinois, and a few others describing Egyptian artifacts in the GC. I feel these subjects are just a few of the many conspiracys in which we have a possibility to collaborate. I can't exactly go to the CDC and demand the records on the polio vaccine, but I can try and test some of this. I'm going to go back through the archives and give some of the shows a listen again. So what is Mr. Andrews position on the Grand Canyon? Does he think it has been previously discover by non indigenous peoples prior to the European expansion? And are you aware of the approximate location of some of these sites? Probably find the blurry spots on Google Earth and check there first lol.
 
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Brother, I have a sneakin' suspicion you have been a LIFELONG seeker of the Esoteric too. This does not strike me as your first day at the rodeo....Thankfully!
Fortunately, it isn't mine either -
so I WELCOME any initiated collaboration in any form, assuming we are primarily led by that same kind of passionate curiosity that fuels all great expeditions,large or small.
That's really my only caveat about working with other folks. #1.) Having a primary- CLEARLY DEFINED,CLEARLY ACKNOWLEDGED group goal/idea/creative impulse/etc....something that can trump a human ego with it's wonderment-factor & purity. Everything else will work itself out,ya know.
(personally speaking: Shit,dude- I've lived on a commune in Southern Oregon with 30+ other "Radical" fae-folk for extended time periods - during which you learn a thing or two about not being a fucking Prima Donna,the follies of doing everything by consensus & learning the great joys of enthusiastic cooperation...whether you want to or not!)

THAT SPIRIT is not dead, aged out or digitized into oblivion. IN FACT, that spirit is something the vast majority of us here in this little nook of cyberspace all have in common.

I have this looming feeling that Mr. Andrews is no longer with us. Currently investigating...
 
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Harry Hubbard!!!! aaaaaaah! THAT was the guy I was trying to think of earlier. Maaan- thank you for naming him. It's been bugging the shitake mushrooms out of me ALL friggin' morning.

Jesus,man......Episode Date: July- bloody-15th 2016!?$%!*!?!
>Why do the passing years feel so bizarre since we were kids? And not just in the cliche' way everyone tells you when you are growing up? <

I wonder what THIS DUDE is up to these days.*chants "Return Guest Yo!" I totally vibe with his energy & think he would vibe with this potential posse.This EPISODE is still SOOO GOOOOOD!!!!

I know,iknow,iknow - he mentioned "bible verses" & his views on "monkeys, evolution,etc." are not mine but he doesn't strike me as an.......overly evangelical individual. (<---I have another name for this type;)) Opposing views often bring out the best in each other.Plus, I dig his accent. Reminds me of home.lol
 
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In Your Opinion,
What STRAIN goes best with listening to The "G-man" or
is that the "C-man"? or maybe
The Freezeland He-man? or perhaps
The Provocateur Connoisseur? or maybe just
Greg-Motherfuuckin'-Carlwood,yo!

On Today's Cannabis Menu:
Wedding Cake - 21.2%
Ferrari OG - 18.9%
BlueBerry Pie - 17.5%
XJ-13 - 20.3%
Cookies-N-Cream - 15.1%
Platinum G.S.C. - 19.5%

(*stocked up before leaving L.A. b-cuz
AZ green sucks donkey bxxx$ *giggles)

P.S. - SCREW Another soul-less TV SHOW -
CREATE your own CANNABIS BRAND/strain,maaaaan!
 
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I have an insatiable curiosity, and the truth is what I'm after. I think of the human race as one big story book, and the fun part is finding where all this stuff fits. How far is Mt shasta from the GC?
 
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